[vbox-dev] censorship

Michael Thayer michael.thayer at oracle.com
Mon Dec 11 10:06:48 GMT 2017

Hello Stéphane,

Our policy is to delete comments which are off-topic, or make a bug
ticket harder to read without adding value, or are abusive.  This
particular comment scored on the second and third points.  It made the
ticket harder to read because it added a "me too" without useful new
information (not quite true, and I updated the last comment to reflect
that), saying that the problem was in VirtualBox when in fact it is a
known bug in the guest operating system.  People who find and read this
ticket are quite likely to skip to the end, only reading the first and
last comments, and I have already wasted a lot of time on this issue
which is not a bug of ours which I could have spend doing more useful
things.  I do not want to waste even more.  This is not an attempt at
censorship, but I think that the discussion should happen on the Ubuntu
ticket (to which I am also subscribed).

Hope that made some sense to you.


11.12.2017 10:09, Stéphane Charette wrote:
> (Am I using that word correctly?)
> VBox's ticket #13615 describes a long-standing issue.  I first ran into
> it 3 years ago, which is how I now get emailed every time someone posts
> to the ticket.  Over the weekend someone else posted again, because the
> issue still exists.  Then minutes ago, I get this email:
>     Comment (by michael):
>     I will remove the last few comments.  Please see my explanation above.
>     This is a bug in Ubuntu/Lubuntu, which has also been seen in SUSE
>     (on non-
>     virtual hardware) and I think Debian, which changes graphics card
>     registers after X.Org has started.  Perhaps my assumption that it was
>     fixed was incorrect, since I have enough work on !VirtualBox I did not
>     investigate the Ubuntu side in detail.  The Launchpad issue is bug
>     1443853<1>.
> All the recent comments and attachments to the ticket, including the one
> above my Michael (who I assume is Oracle staff?) have been deleted,
> leaving no trace of recent activity on this long-standing ticket.
> I don't think what was done is right.  I understand it would be
> preferable for the root problem to be fixed, but the truth is this
> impacts VirtualBox users, and regardless, deleting peoples comments and
> attachments to make it look like an issue is no longer a problem seems
> wrong.
> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13615
> Stéphane
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