[vbox-dev] Updated translation of manual
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
mengualjeanphi at free.fr
Thu May 23 20:58:39 GMT 2013
Thanks for the report. I'll update my copy and I think it will be fine.
Best regards,
On jeudi 23 mai 2013 à 14:05:00 (+0200), Klaus Espenlaub wrote:
> Hello Jean-Philippe,
>
> we just discovered a few technical issues with your translation source
> (incorrect use of id=... attributes in the <title> tags) which result in
> dangling links in the HTML variant of the manual.
>
> This is fixed (including the French translation) in the public
> repository in r46232, and I hope that "svn up" will merge this in
> without further trouble for you.
>
> Just a heads up, the bug was purely on our side.
>
> Klaus
>
> On 15.05.2013 20:42, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > On mercredi 15 mai 2013 à 14:35:48 (+0200), Michael Thayer wrote:
> >> Hello Jean-Philippe,
> >
> > Hi, :)
> >
> >>
> >> I have applied your patch and updated the svn repository. If you
> >> have not made any changes since you created the patch you might want
> >> to switch your local copy entirely to the svn one ("svn up && svn
> >> revert doc/manual/fr_FR") so that we both have the same base to work
> >> from.
> >
> > Thanks very much. If you applied the latest patch I sent after the .tar.gz
> > containing all the xml files, it's up-to-date. So perfect.
> >
> >>
> >> I made a few corrections and also combined the two change log files.
> >
> > Excellent
> >
> >> We have them separate in the English manual because
> >> doc/manual/user_ChangeLogImpl.xml is changed regularly by developers
> >> when they add features, but since you are translating everything
> >> together you don't really need this (and it saves me from having to
> >> add new logic into the make files!)
> >
> > Perfect.
> >
> >>
> >> Thank you again for your contributions! Out of interest, did you
> >> ever manage to get in contact with Benjamin, who is maintaining the
> >> French translation of the user interface?
> >
> > He wrote to me some weeks after my 1st message posting about the translation
> > I ead just finished. I answered, but now I have not had news since this mail.
> > It'd be good to work together, all the more as I cannot work with some toolkit
> > or framework. So to translate, if I had to translate the GUI, I should understand
> > how it is handled in the text files. So really, his help to review the manual
> > and update his GUI work would be fine.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > JPM
> >
> >
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> On 14/05/13 21:59, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> >>> Thanks very much, and sorry for the mistake. I certainly did a false tweak
> >>> trying to gain some time and actually... you lost time yourself... my apologies.
> >>> Moreover I thought I had fixed the issue which concerned VBoxManage only, but
> >>> it seems it was more important than I imagined (larger). Well... sorry and
> >>> thanks again. I will be more careful to maintain clean the base you'll commit.
> >>> It will be easier now I think.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> JPM
> >>>
> >>> On mardi 14 mai 2013 à 21:44:30 (+0200), Michael Thayer wrote:
> >>>> Hello Jean-Philippe,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you! I have finally got round to looking at your last upload.
> >>>> The problem was that for some reason a couple of files got inserted
> >>>> into others (the new version of user_GuestAdditions.xml got inserted
> >>>> at the beginning of user_AdvancedTopics.xml and the new version of
> >>>> user_VBoxManage.xml stuck on the end of the old one). I have fixed
> >>>> that and am making it build. I will apply your patch and provide
> >>>> you with a new version you can use as a base.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14/05/13 21:14, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's a patch to update to the latest changes of the doc:
> >>>>> http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu/patchupdatevboxmanfr.patch
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On vendredi 03 mai 2013 à 20:07:35 (+0200), Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Michael,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry I had not understood the nature of the problem. All the more as I'm unable
> >>>>>> to understand how it happent.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Actually it's fixed, I hope. The clean translation is on:
> >>>>>> http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu/manualupd.tar.bz2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let me know any problem and thanks for the suggestions you made, which
> >>>>>> helped me understanding better.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On vendredi 03 mai 2013 à 14:06:22 (+0200), Michael Thayer wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hello Jean-Philippe,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the update. There is still the same issue as before
> >>>>>>> though - the VBoxManage chapter is inserted into other files in
> >>>>>>> seven places. Do "grep chapter.id..vboxmanage" on the XML files to
> >>>>>>> see this. If you like I can fix this for you, but then you should
> >>>>>>> probably do a complete fresh copy of my fixed files.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Michael
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 03/05/13 02:09, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On: http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu/manualupd.tar.bz2 you'll find the full up-to-date
> >>>>>>>> manual. It'd be necessary to debug it from a xml point of view or tell me how I
> >>>>>>>> can identify the errors.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please tell me how I can debug or when it is debugged so that I sync my work
> >>>>>>>> copy for an easier future updating.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You'll find also, in the tarball, the changelog which is translated. That's
> >>>>>>>> why I've not sent anything for some weeks. I'll maintain it to stay up-to-date
> >>>>>>>> in case you want to ship it someday. I prefer to maintain it as I don't feel
> >>>>>>>> able to translate it for each release once the release is online. This kind of
> >>>>>>>> doc is fastidious. So I prefer to translate on-the-fly, it's easier.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for your help and hope my doc helps :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> JPM
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On lundi 08 avril 2013 à 10:23:21 (+0200), Michael Thayer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hello Jean-Philippe,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 02/04/13 23:39, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The latest changes of the user manual were translated here:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu/manualvboxupdated.patch
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> it's a big patch, but its actual contents isn't. I think all the files appear
> >>>>>>>>>> because I had to do some twicks with charset (converting to iso then re-convert
> >>>>>>>>>> into utf-8. That's why the patch (svn diff) appears like this. I'm thinking of
> >>>>>>>>>> some solution to produce clean patches.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I am ready to read any suggestion. Anyway I hope it helps.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for the update! Sorry for the late reply - I am just back
> >>>>>>>> >from holiday. Something is clearly not quite right though with the
> >>>>>>>>> way your system is producing the patches: if you search through the
> >>>>>>>>> patch for the text '<chapter id="vboxmanage">' you will see what I
> >>>>>>>>> mean. I could probably fix this manually, but it might make sense
> >>>>>>>>> for you to do that on your system (and then perhaps send your
> >>>>>>>>> complete user manual text again as a compressed archive file to be
> >>>>>>>>> sure that we are in sync).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Michael
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