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I would be interested in the VRDP piece as well and contributing
to the cost of developing/purchasing it. <br>
<br>
Citrix just open sourced XenServer, the whole stack, there is no
difference now between the commercial offering and the open source
version; except for support. <br>
<br>
Redhat's KVM hypervisor is open. <br>
<br>
Here is hoping that one day Oracle releases VRDP under an open
source license. As Pau writes below, you can't buy an OEM
version; therefore they aren't monetizing it on the server side,
except for their Secure Global Desktop. <br>
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On 13-07-19 10:59 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAKcBokviTrfPENNMurtgQxnHYX5hFUGMJUG35B1Xsai4pNFSHg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hello,
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<div>We developed our own RDP-like protocol for use with WPF. It's
quite naïve (take IFrameBuffer and send PNG's with the changed
area, then paint it) but it works fine for LANs, which is our
use case. It's GPL and developed in C#. We developed it for two
reasons:</div>
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<div>- The most important one: it was impossible to OEM license
VirtualBox. We contacted Sun, then Oracle, multiple times for
years. In the end, our product was ready to sell and still had
no OEM licensing rates (just a "you can distribute it for free
for now")</div>
<div>- Also important: embedding the RDP ActiveX in WPF causes all
sorts of problems. We literally spent man-months debugging this
and implementing all kind of workarounds. Our own implementation
was ready in less than a week by one person.</div>
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<div>Maybe KickStarting a fully opensource (BSD license, please)
Guest Additions would get traction.</div>
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What worries me is whether an initiative like this would
definitely kill VirtualBox. Oracle recently nixed every
virtualization product it inherited from Sun but VirtualBox.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:38 PM,
Huihong Luo <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:huisinro@yahoo.com" target="_blank">huisinro@yahoo.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div><span style="background-color:transparent">As for
vrdp, I've been working on using FreeRDP, not fully
working yet, but it is very positive, also made the
remoteUSB to work too.</span><br>
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style="font-style:normal;font-size:16.363636016845703px;background-color:transparent;font-family:'times
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style="font-style:normal;font-size:16.363636016845703px;background-color:transparent;font-family:'times
new roman','new york',times,serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent">For the
remaining portions of the extension pack, I don't
have any ideas. Basically, USB + VRDP considered to
be done, provided a nice payment. It took me one
year.</span></div>
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york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
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york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
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<hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
Oliver Loch <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:o.loch@gmx.net" target="_blank">o.loch@gmx.net</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
Huihong Luo <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:huisinro@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">huisinro@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
Joachim Schiele <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:js-vbox@lastlog.de"
target="_blank">js-vbox@lastlog.de</a>>; "<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vbox-dev@virtualbox.org"
target="_blank">vbox-dev@virtualbox.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vbox-dev@virtualbox.org"
target="_blank">vbox-dev@virtualbox.org</a>>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, July 19, 2013 10:30 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [vbox-dev] VirtualBox Extension Pack going
GPL?<br>
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<div>Gimme your bank account I'll send you an
Euro for your effort.
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<div>Am 19.07.2013 um 19:21 schrieb
Huihong Luo <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
href="mailto:huisinro@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">huisinro@yahoo.com</a>>:</div>
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<div><span>I do have a complete
implementation of the USB
2.0 (fully compatible to
vbox), if someone pays, I
can submit my code as open
source.</span></div>
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new roman','new
york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
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<hr size="1"> <font
face="Arial"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Joachim Schiele <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="mailto:js-vbox@lastlog.de"
target="_blank">js-vbox@lastlog.de</a>><br>
<b><span
style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="mailto:vbox-dev@virtualbox.org"
target="_blank">vbox-dev@virtualbox.org</a>
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<b><span
style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, July 19, 2013
8:50 AM<br>
<b><span
style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
[vbox-dev] VirtualBox
Extension Pack going
GPL?<br>
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dear vbox developers and
users,<br>
<br>
i would like to get the
proprietary parts,
especially the VirtualBox
<br>
Extension Pack, open
source. most of VirtualBox
is already open source, <br>
which is a good thing in
several regards:<br>
- quality of distro
integration and<br>
- debugging<br>
<br>
getting basic OSE
virtualbox support is
straight forward and
better than <br>
any other solution i tried
(i'm on linux, i tried
vmware/libvirt) for <br>
desktop virtualization.<br>
<br>
in contrast to OSE
virtualbox, installing
VBox extension pack is a
PITA:<br>
- <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://nixos.org/wiki/Installing_VirtualBox_on_NixOS"
target="_blank">http://nixos.org/wiki/Installing_VirtualBox_on_NixOS</a><br>
- <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://forums-web2.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-717099-start-0.html"
target="_blank">http://forums-web2.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-717099-start-0.html</a><br>
- <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/VirtualBox/Installation#Extension-Pack"
target="_blank">http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/VirtualBox/Installation#Extension-Pack</a><br>
<br>
it usually forces me to
manually download the
extension pack which <br>
interrupts my whole
upgrade process. and i
have to do that on each <br>
upgrade of my system which
really costs a lot of
time. so here is my <br>
proposal:<br>
<br>
we try to get the 'USB 2.0
support codebase' of the
'VirtualBox <br>
Extension Pack' open
source!<br>
<br>
VirtualBox Extension Pack
consists of:<br>
* support for USB 2.0
devices<br>
* VirtualBox RDP and PXE
boot for Intel cards<br>
* VirtualBox Remote
Desktop Protocol (VRDP)
support<br>
* Experimental support for
PCI passthrough on Linux
hosts<br>
<br>
i would like to start with
the USB 2.0 support
becoming open source and <br>
i think we have several
options:<br>
<br>
== 1 ==<br>
oracle releases the
'oracle USB 2.0 codebase'
as GPL for free - is that
<br>
an option?<br>
<br>
== 2 ==<br>
we finance the 'oracle USB
2.0 codebase' GPL release
via kickstarter <br>
(how much would oracle
want for their code?)<br>
<br>
== 3 ==<br>
we have the specification
so we could finance a
'third party GPL USB 2.0 <br>
codebase', we could
finance this via
kickstarter as well<br>
<br>
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